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Guns are for suicide, and other anti-gun lies

Let’s take another way for people to use statistics to lie to you.

Murthy has already said that he plans to use his office to work on obesity, not guns. But looking at the instances in which firearm use ends in death, it becomes clear that there’s a health case to be made for gun control, too.

Guns are far more likely to be used in suicides than in killing assailants:

Then he shows you a graph that looks very much like this one I cobbled together in Excel

HomicideSuicideDGU1

and goes on to say

According to the CDC, 19,392 people committed suicide with a gun in 2010, the latest year for which data are available. That same year, meanwhile, the FBI recorded only 230 justifiable homicides (the legal term) in which a private citizen used a firearm to kill a felon during the commission of a felony.

OMG! I have a gun, so I’m at risk for suicide?!?!?!?

Oh, wait. I missed something. What did she say again?

But looking at the instances in which firearm use ends in death

Umm, why limit it just to “instances in which firearms use ends in death?” If I have to use a gun against another human, I am legally required to use it only when I reasonably fear death, serious bodily injury, or sexual assault. If I haul out the old XD and point it at someone, I am worried, with good cause, that I’m about to die. That means that if I don’t die, I win. In fact, any result other than the good guys ending up dead is considered a win. Why does Olga demand I kill my assailant? Is she not pleased if the assailant runs away, leaving both of us scared but unharmed? What kind of bloodthirsty ghoul is Olga, anyway?

With that in mind I did some poking about and looked up the various estimates of defensive gun uses (DGUs) and I added them to Olga’s little graph.

HomicideSuicideDGU2

Even the lowest number of estimated DGUs is more that five times higher that the number of suicides using a firearm.

I’m not even going to get into how Olga misrepresents suicide statistics. She attempts to paint suicide with a gun as a problem for young people.

Suicide is the second-leading cause of death for people under 35, and the Harvard School of Public Health has found that “suicide rates among children, women and men of all ages are higher in states where more households have guns.” More than six in 10 of the firearm deaths in the past decade were suicides, not homicides.

This graphic will immediately show you what a lie that is.

Daily Deaths(Graphic is from NYT, Bill Marsh)

See where all the red cartridges are concentrated? White men age 40 and over. Just adding up the cartridges shows 25 white men 40 or over vs. 20 in all other categories. If you use the CDC WISQARS info you will quickly determine that one half of all suicides using any method were white men over the age of 35. Suicide is an older white male problem. Statistically, the only people less likely to kill themselves than 14-19 year olds is the 0-13 group. And when you run the numbers, guns aren’t the most popular choice for teen and child suicides.

Maybe this explains why the Left likes to lump suicides in with homicides and scream “GUN DEATHS!!” yet refuses to do anything to reduce actual suicides. They really don’t care if we white male gun owners over the age of 40 kill ourselves. They regard us as the enemy, so our deaths help them twice. Once as statistics to support their gun grabbing agenda, and a second time because we aren’t around to vote against them.

For those who wish to do their own research, here’s where I got the DGU numbers. Here’s the table of data.

And here is WISQARS. Go ahead and poke around with it. You’ll find that suicides are an older white male thing.

 

How to lie with statistics, or Rape in Canada

I am going to show you a well sourced graph that uses very good governmental data. All the data is good, but the graph is a lie.

US vs Canada Rape

OMG! Canadian women are getting raped at rates FAR FAR higher than American women. Are Canadian men all monsters covered in maple leaves?

NO. You’ve been hoodwinked.

Here’s the data.

US Crime Stats, including state by state forcible rape statistics

Canadian Crime Stats including Sexual Assault level 1-3

Do you see the difference? The Canadian crime stats don’t measure the same thing that the US crime stats measure. Let’s look at the US crime stats definition of “Forcible Rape.”

Forcible rape, as defined in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, is the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will. Attempts or assaults to commit rape by force or threat of force are also included; however, statutory rape (without force) and other sex offenses are excluded.

Data collection

The UCR Program counts one offense for each female victim of a forcible rape, attempted forcible rape, or assault with intent to rape, regardless of the victim’s age. A rape by force involving a female victim and a familial offender is counted as a forcible rape and not an act of incest. All other crimes of a sexual nature are considered to be Part II offenses; as such, the UCR Program collects only arrest data for those crimes. The offense of statutory rape, in which no force is used but the female victim is under the age of consent, is included in the arrest total for the sex offenses category. Sexual attacks on males are counted as aggravated assaults or sex offenses, depending on the circumstances and the extent of any injuries.

Now let’s look at the Canadian definition of Sexual Assault levels 1-3

Uniform Crime Reporting Survey (UCR2)

The incident-based Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR2) Survey captures criminal incidents that have come to the attention of the police, which includes 4 different types of sexual offences as defined by the Criminal Code.

Sexual assault level 1 (s.271): An assault committed in circumstances of a sexual nature such that the sexual integrity of the victim is violated. Level 1 involves minor physical injuries or no injuries to the victim.

Sexual assault level 2 (s.272): Sexual assault with a weapon, threats, or causing bodily harm.

Aggravated sexual assault (level 3): Sexual assault that results in wounding, maiming, disfiguring or endangering the life of the victim.

Other sexual offences: A group of offences that are meant to primarily address incidents of sexual abuse directed at children. The Criminal Code offences included in this category are: Sexual interference (s.151), Invitation to sexual touching (s.152), Sexual exploitation (s.153), Incest (s.155), Anal intercourse (s.159), and Bestiality (s.160).

So in addition to spelling things differently, Canadians count things as Sexual Assault that would be not be counted in the US as Forcible Rape. Canada counts Sexual Assaults whether they are unwanted kissing or rape, while the US statistics are limited to just the rapes. You can see why our numbers would be a great deal lower if we’re only counting a subset of the crimes that Canada is counting.

Why do I point this out? Because whenever we are treated to a discussion of how scary and violent the US is, the anti-gunners dump a lot of statistics on us comparing the US to whichever countries they are currently enamored of. There’s no attempt to determine if those statistics are collected in the same way from one country to another. When we compare countries, we try to stick to Murder and Non-Negligent Homicides because dead bodies are fairly easy to count. There’s not a lot of fudging the numbers you can do. Or at least we thought.

We now know that the UK murder numbers are tainted by the fact that in the UK, they don’t count it as a murder until someone gets convicted of the crime. The coroners in the UK don’t even return a finding of Homicide on obvious homicides. They write a narrative of their findings and hand it off to the cops. But if no one gets convicted, it’s possible that even though they have a dead body, it never gets counted in the official statistics.

We also know that in Japan, police officers routinely lie on their criminal records and categorize obvious homicides as suicide, or even “found body.” Japanese police detectives get promoted based upon what percentage of crimes get solved. If there isn’t an obvious perpetrator standing over the body for the cop to arrest, the pressure to mark it down as suicide or “found body” is enormous. In many cases they even refuse to do an autopsy.

Whenever someone tries to show you some statistics, remember this graph. Remember that it’s not always obvious if all the data is good and that the data is comparable from one country to the next.

US vs. Canada Intentional Homicide Rates

Just for fun I made up a graph comparing US States (and DC) vs. Canadian Provinces intentional homicide rates. Some places in Canada aren’t very safe.

US vs Canada Homicide Rates(Click to enlarge)

I’ve placed a horizontal line at right about the US National Average of 4.7 homicides per 100K population as well as a vertical line separating the US and Canada.

Overall, Canada is a pretty safe place, but then again, overall, so is the US. I suspect that Canada has the same issues as we do, homicides being drug trafficking related rather than random. How does the Canadian drug policy differ from ours?

Source for US statistics HERE

Source for Canadian statistics HERE

Is the US really a crime ridden slaughterhouse?

We hear it all the time. “The US has the highest gun murder rate of any industrialized western country not at war.” Or in the case that Weer’d dug up, the “highest gun murder rate in the ‘developed’ world.” What does that mean, anyway?

Read the sentences above again. Note all the qualifiers. “Industrialized,” “Western,” “Developed.” They make no claims about the world as a whole, just the small subset of countries that they wish to compare the USA to. The one Weer’d dug up used the member states of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (minus Mexico) as a proxy for “developed.” Basically all they are saying is that among white(ish) western European countries, plus a few more, we rank second worst in gun related murders after Mexico. So how do we rate in the whole world?

Firearm Homicide Rate(Source data, List of countries by firearm-related death rate, Wikipedia)

Our rate doesn’t look so bad now, does it? We have a total firearm homicide rate of 3.6 per 100K. Keep in mind, that’s just the 75 countries they have data for.

But we’ve always maintained to the anti-gunners that dead is dead. Stabbed to death is just as bad as shot to death is just as bad as strangled. So how does the US compare in overall homicide rates?

Intentional Homicide total

In this graph there are so many countries that Excel is unable to label them all. The US is two bars lower than Belarus and two bars above Surinam. Our intentional homicide rate is 4.8 per 100K.

Let’s make the whole thing more clear. Here is the above graph broken down into smaller graphs. They all use the same scale of 0-100, so the bars are proportional on every graph.

Intentional Homicide Part1Intentional Homicide Part2Intentional Homicide Part3Intentional Homicide Part4Intentional Homicide Part5Intentional Homicide Part6

If you want to have a lot of fun, go through the countries on the first 3 graphs and count how many of them are places that rich white liberals consider good vacation destinations.

This isn’t secret data. It’s all posted on Wikipedia for everyone to look at. You can make your own graphs using the current data here.

What’s going on is that the gun haters cherry pick the countries that they want to compare the US to. They don’t look at the whole world, but just a tiny subset. They ignore the very real problem that other countries do not collect homicide data in the same way as we do in the US. Our rule is “dead body that isn’t clearly suicide or accident = homicide.” In the UK, it’s not a murder until someone gets convicted. (Seriously, read this and see how different the UK statistics are from reality)

So next time someone spouts off about how murderous the US is, point them to my handy dandy graphs.

UPDATE: Just for grins I made a graph comparing US States vs. Canadian Provinces. Check it out.

I get kicked out of a “Memorial Service” at a Catholic Church (*Video*)

I ended up visiting the anti-gun Moms Demand Action, a wholly owned subsidiary of Michael Bloomberg, Inc’s “Memorial Service” and fundraising event in Durham. I visited for about 30 seconds. Here’s how the News and Observer puts it.

Just before the event started, Haldeman was chatting in the church vestibule when her eyes narrowed. She dashed in front of a dark haired, clean-cut man.

“Sean, you are not welcome here,” she said. “Please leave the premises.”

The man, Sean Sorrentino, left quietly. A gun-rights activist, Sorrentino recently posted on his blog a picture of Mothers Demand Action members gathered in front of a church.

The caption: “Congratulations, you’ve had a child. How does having sex without birth control qualify you to infringe on our rights?”

Here’s the photo they are referring to

Moms Demand

I didn’t make any sort of a disturbance, nor would I have made one, especially inside of a house of worship. I think it’s projection. The Left enjoys disrupting events, so they probably can’t imagine that we wouldn’t return the favor.

ABC11 WTVD actually made me their headline.

Protester thrown out of Durham Sandy Hook vigil

A service was held Saturday in Durham honoring the Newtown school shooting victims and demanding gun reform. Others made their voices heard in favor of gun rights.

Not everyone at the service was in favor of gun restrictions. A man standing across the street called himself a protester and said he was thrown out.

“I am a fairly well known local activist for gun rights. So the organizer recognized me at the door and kicked me out,” protester Sean Sorrentino said. “Why do they want to take away my rights in order to feel better about something some crazy person did?”

Here’s the video

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NewsCarolina 14 also stopped to chat.

But there’s also the other side. Sean Sorrentino said he was banned from the ceremony because he’s a vocal second amendment supporter. He says gun control shouldn’t limit his rights.

“Take a look at these people who are committing this crime and what’s actually happening is that these people have a criminal history. Put them in jail, leave them in jail,” he said.

I should point out that we were talking about violent crime in general, not Sandy Hook in particular when I pointed out the most violent crimes are committed by people with previous convictions.

Here’s the video.

Moms Demand Action, a wholly owned subsidiary of Michael Bloomberg, Inc, is calling their current fundraiser/blood dancing effort “No More Silence,” but they don’t want to hear from anyone with a differing opinion.

NBC takes note of our Gabby Giffords counterprotest

Via Arizona Rifleman (who’s posting again, so read him!) comes this wonderful story of how the gun grabbers are withering on the vine. The headline is fantastic.

Almost a year after Newtown, does anyone care about gun control anymore?

In the aftermath of the Newtown massacre, gun control was ground zero in American politics, captivating the public and politicos alike. It flared again late last month after a gunman killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard.

But now, as the first anniversary of Newtown approaches, the forces for gun control have little to celebrate, a lot to mourn and scant hope of change in the near term. On the front lines, activists say they are demoralized and adrift, the movement fraying at the roots as its leaders struggle to reignite a fading national moment for change.

“It’s not going well at all,” says Sally Christ, 56, a donor to Americans for Responsible Solutions, a major gun-control lobby launched this year by former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

I was happily reading Arizona Rifleman’s blog post on this when something jumped out and smacked me in the face like a wet fish.

That’s why, in late June and early July, Team Giffords—which includes Gabby, her husband Mark Kelly, her service dog Nelson, and a phalanx of operatives—toured seven states in seven days. Toting a suitcase of their own firearms, they preached “gun responsibilities,” and tried to engage hardline locals and gun rights politicians. At the same time, Mayors Against Illegal Guns ran a 100-day, 25-state summer bus tour, calling for an end to gun violence.

But the results of both tours were mixed at best. In state after state, major politicians ducked Giffords and Kelly, despite (or perhaps because of) ample advance notice of their arrival.  In Alaska, Mark Begich, one of four Democrats who voted against closing the gun show loophole, was said to be vacationing on an island without cell service when the tour arrived. In North Dakota, “friends in the NRA” forced a last minute venue change, according to a Team Giffords advance man, who himself declined to be named for fear of mixing with gun-grabbers from Washington. And when members of MAIG arrived in Fargo, the mayor told them that guns were not a problem.

The grassroots side of the campaign struggled as well. At a MAIG event in Columbus, Ohio, the Buckeye Firearms Association organized a counter rally that drew twice the crowd.  In Raleigh, N.C., when Giffords passed through, a gun blogger turned out two-dozen people shaking green signs that read: Guns Save Lives. But perhaps the most dramatic scenes were in Manchester and Dover, N.H., where protesters arrived “full battle rattle,” as one man noted on a Facebook page for the counter-protest, toting guns—including an AR-15—and forcing Giffords out a back exit after her speech.

I don’t know how to spell it, but you know that sound they use in cartoons when something screeches to a halt and crashes? That was what happened in my brain.

You see, I’m that “gun blogger” in Raleigh who “turned out two-dozen people shaking green signs that read: Guns Save Lives.” Of course, it wasn’t because all my blog readers turned up, it was because I was leading the Grass Roots North Carolina protest. It was GRNC who emailed all their members in Wake and Durham counties asking them to show up at an unknown (at the time) location with about 24 hours notice. We didn’t know where we were going to set up until 10 hours before the event where it was even going to be! Their secrecy was deliberate, because they didn’t want us to show up. Sadly (for them!) they failed. From my blog wrapup of that event…

Luckily, the media told us what was happening. We heard several variations, but the basics were that they would shoot sporting clays, have a round table discussion with gun owners, and meet with their supporters. The general consensus was that their round table discussion with gun owners would happen at “The Pit Authentic Barbecue” in downtown Raleigh at around 11AM. Paul Valone of Grass Roots North Carolina couldn’t make it, so he put me in charge and asked me to make it happen. With less than 10 hours notice, we wrangled a crowd of about 25-30 people.

(Read the whole thing for photos and even some news video coverage.)

And now, months later, NBC is citing us and one of a number of reasons that the Astroturf anti-gun movement is failing.

If you ever wonder, “What can I do to make a difference,” think about me and those 25-30 people standing on a sidewalk in July, sweating, and doing TV interviews. We made a difference. Just by showing up, we made a difference. We showed the world the difference between Astroturf anti-gun and grassroots gun rights. We taught them all a lesson that no matter how much money you have and no matter how nice the private jet you flit about the country on, we have the numbers, intensity, and votes to beat you.

I’ve asked the author for a correction, noting that the protest was a GRNC event More importantly, I’ve emailed all my fellow protestors to let them know that NBC is pointing to them as one of the reasons that Astroturf anti-gunners have failed. They won a great victory for us that day.

Questions about H937 Restaurant Carry

I received an email today asking some questions about H937 and its effect on the everyday lives of CHP holders in NC. Rather than answer him, and the next guy, and the next, I thought it would make a good subject for a post.

As a valid NC CCW holder, and someone who carries his handgun wherever possible, when will this bill become law now that it has passed both the house and senate? Also, even after reading it, I still have some questions that you may be able to answer:

does this make it legal for me to carry ANYWHERE alcohol is served, ie resturants and bars?

Since it states gatherings where admission is charged, does that cover movie theatres, regardless of the no handgun signs?

Does this also cover gatherings such as parades or festivals/fairs?

Let’s take them in order.

  1. When will this bill become law – So long as the governor signs H937 it becomes law on Oct 1, 2013.
  2. Does it make it legal to carry ANYWHERE alcohol is served, ie. restaurants and bars –  There are no “bars” in North Carolina. There are “Restaurants” and “Eating Establishments.” These places MAY have alcohol licenses. The difference between a Restaurant and an “Eating Establishment” is size. Restaurants have seating for 36 people. The short answer is Yes, you can, if you have a CHP. As always, these locations are private property and may post signs prohibiting firearms.
  3. Gatherings where admission is charged – You may, under this law, carry in theaters (both live action and movie). Again, you have to have a CHP, and you are still prohibited from carrying if the owner posts a No Guns sign.
  4. Does this cover gatherings such as parades or festivals/fairs – It was never illegal to carry in a festival or fair, only Parades, Funeral processions, and demonstrations. It will still be illegal to carry at a demonstration, but if you have a CHP it will no longer be illegal to carry at a parade or funeral procession.

There you go! If you have more questions for me, use the contact form above and I will answer to the best of my ability.

Here is a link to my post on H937 as passed by the NCGA and presented to the Governor.

How North Carolina receives carpetbaggers Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly

EDITED TO ADD: One of the stated aims of the Giffords/Kelly tour was to visit states where vulnerable Senators voted for or against the Toomey/Manchin gun control bill. Senator Kay Hagan, (D-NC) voted for T/M and is one of the most vulnerable Senators in the 2014 election. I saw no evidence at all that Hagan made any attempt to meet with Giffords or Kelly during this visit. This matches what happened in North Dakota where Democrats distanced themselves from her politically as well as physically.

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North Carolina is shedding its reputation as The Massachusetts of Dixie when it comes to gun laws. We are poised to end a bunch of stupid prohibitions with House Bill 937. And if there’s one thing that North Carolinians can’t stand it’s outsiders coming here to tell us how to run our lives. Strange how a kid from California can move here and go all native, huh? All you Yankee Carpetbaggers, GO HOME!

Today was the last day of Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly’s whirlwind tour of the USA. Seven states in seven days.

Anyone know what this is?

Gabbys plane

That is a photo of the private jet Gabby and Mark flew around in. It’s a $25,000,000 Candair Challenger CL-600. It’s owned by Montfort Aviation, which is owned by the Montfort brothers. Charlie Montfort owns the Colorado Rockies baseball team. It must be nice to have such generous friends to fly you all across the USA to push for further infringements on our rights.

Dubbed the “Rights and Responsibilities Tour” (and hilariously hash tagged #RandRTour, yeah, that plane looks like Rest and Relaxation to me!) Giffords and Kelly seemed to be pushing the Spiderman theory of gun ownership. “With great power comes great responsibility.” The reality is that their organization, “Americans for Responsible Solutions” has four goals.

  1. Ban all private firearm transfers
  2. “Limit” all “high capacity” magazines. Limit appears to mean “ban.”
  3. “Limit” all “assault weapons” however they decide to define that. Limit appears to mean “ban” on this one as well.
  4. Stop “Gun Trafficking.” I guess they plan to make it illegaler. Double illegal? Triple illegal?

So however they spin themselves, they are just another garden variety gun grabber group. We met them on those terms.

It took a lot of doing to find out where the R&R Tour was going to show up. So much so that I actually went to the airport to meet the plane in hopes of getting info on their planned stops for today. The cops kicked me out.

Luckily, the media told us what was happening. We heard several variations, but the basics were that they would shoot sporting clays, have a round table discussion with gun owners, and meet with their supporters. The general consensus was that their round table discussion with gun owners would happen at “The Pit Authentic Barbecue” in downtown Raleigh at around 11AM. Paul Valone of Grass Roots North Carolina couldn’t make it, so he put me in charge and asked me to make it happen. With less than 10 hours notice, we wrangled a crowd of about 25-30 people. Here we are at the beginning when the media showed up

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Photo Credit: Eric S, Raleigh

Immediately the media descended. I gave 4 on camera interviews and one print interview. Our main message was, not surprisingly, “Why is Gabby Giffords trying so hard to avoid the group she claims to represent?” That message set the tone for a lot of the coverage.

WRAL, channel 5.

Giffords meets with gun control supporters in Raleigh

Former Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords visited Raleigh Sunday as part of a nationwide “Rights and Responsibilities Tour” to highlight ways they believe tougher laws can reduce gun violence.

Pro-gun rights group Grass Roots North Carolina criticized the couple for sitting down only with members of their organization rather than reaching out to gun owners across the political spectrum.

The group, which last week offered 100 rounds of free ammo to the first person to track down where Giffords would be, also questioned why details of the visit were not released until Saturday morning.

“Why are they hiding from the gun owners they claim to represent?” the group said in a statement Friday.

Here’s the video. I don’t speak on camera, but I spent quite a bit of time explaining to the reporter how they billed this as a “Round table with gun owners,” but we gun owners were excluded. I guess he listened. Listen for the bomb he drops on them for excluding us. You can see me in the crowd scene rocking the purple shirt.

UPDATE: The WRAL video has been pulled from the WRAL website. We’re trying to get another copy.

Note also how many people they have in the “round table.” Fourteen. We had double that on the street outside.

Here’s how NBC17 spun it.

Giffords brings gun control tour to Raleigh

RALEIGH, N.C. – A gun rights group staged a protest Sunday at The Pit restaurant, where former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and her husband, Mark Kelly, met to support tighter gun control laws.

But the gathering was “by invitation only” which led members of Grass Roots North Carolina to ask why they were not invited.

“We’d like to know why Gabby Giffords is hiding from the very gun owners she claims to represent,” said Sean Sorrentino, while protesting outside.

Let’s go to the tape. Watch how they’ve edited it to make it appear that I answer every question Mark asks. This reporter made me look awesome. (If the video doesn’t load for you, this is the link to watch it at their website)

WNCN: News, Weather for Raleigh. Durham, Fayetteville

ABC weighs in with this

Gabrielle Giffords holds Raleigh gun control rally

Not bad.

Here’s News 14 Carolina. I see that I need to work on not sounding so flat.

Here’s the print story from News 14

Gabrielle Giffords meets with Raleigh gun owners to discuss gun control

RALEIGH — Former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords visited North Carolina as part of a nationwide tour to promote tougher gun laws.

Giffords and her husband, Mark Kelly, met with gun owners and victims of gun violence at The Pit restaurant in downtown Raleigh.

The group, Grassroots North Carolina, protested Giffords’ appearance criticizing it for being an “invitation only” event.

“They said they were speaking for the gun owners. Well, they’re hiding from the gun owners,” said Sean Sorrentino.

And finally, the Raleigh newspaper, The News and Observer.

Giffords, NC group both claim to represent gun owners’ best interests

RALEIGH — Former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords urged a small group gathered Sunday at The Pit restaurant to keep up the battle to expand criminal background checks on gun sales.

Across the street, about 20 protestors with Grass Roots North Carolina held signs saying “Guns Save Lives.” The protest was the group’s latest attempt to show its frustration with Giffords’ message and with event organizers. A day earlier, Grass Roots North Carolina President Paul Valone publicly offered 100 rounds of free ammunition to the first person to identify the firing range Mark Kelly, Giffords’ husband, visited Sunday morning. The offer was made because Giffords’ and Kelly’s group, Americans for Responsible Solutions, didn’t publicly release details surrounding their Raleigh visit, Valone said.

By keeping the details hush-hush, Giffords and Kelly were not engaging with real gun owners, just a pre-selected group, he said.

Grass Roots North Carolina protest organizer Sean Sorrentino disagreed. Expanding criminal background checks places a hurdle in front of gun owners, Sorrentino said.“It’s saying I have to prove my innocence before I can use my Second Amendment rights,” he said.

Our mission was to deny them the chance to claim to be the middle ground. They are trying to play the “We’re moderate” card. Note how every reporter titled their story except N&O. “Gun Control.” There’s no euphemisms like “Gun Safety.” No “Common Sense Gun Laws.” It’s straight up “Gun Control.” That is pure win for our side.

I am really pleased with how the protest went. GRNC looked pretty good and Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly were variously tarred as lying about the round table and as plain old gun controllers.

If they were hoping to sweep in and change anything, they’ve failed. They’ve only managed to get my face on 3 of the 4 major news channels and GRNC’s repudiation of them in every single story printed. Having failed in their mission, they got in their jet and flew to Asheville so Gabby can continue her rehab.

I hope that Gabby gets better. There’s no reason a would be assassin should destroy her life. There’s also no reason she and her husband should try to use that assasination attempt to take away our rights.

Blogger crashes MAIG Presser, Durham Herald-Sun covers it

The setup

A trio of Triangle mayors led by Durham’s Bill Bell on Thursday sought to put pressure on U.S. Sen. Kay Hagan to support an expansion of mandated pre-purchase background checks of would-be firearms owners. 

 Quoting me

The mayors at Thursday’s event had to deal with pushback from critics of the potential legislation, particular Sean Sorrentino, a Raleigh blogger who terms himself “pro-choice on self-defense.”

Sorrentino said the prospective background-check legislation would make “me, my wife and my friend into felons” by unduly restricting loans or even momentary transfers of possession of a firearm.

The mayors lie in response

Bell and Kleinschmidt rejected the criticism, Kleinschmidt arguing the bill would only cover sales and ensure that “the people purchasing firearms are not felons or seriously mentally ill.”

This is one of two things. Either the mayors know this is a lie, or they are so ignorant of the law being proposed that they don’t know it covers every transfer. Here’s the law itself

‘(3) For purposes of this subsection, the term ‘transfer’–

‘(A) shall include a sale, gift, loan, return from pawn or consignment, or other disposition; and

‘(B) shall not include temporary possession of the firearm for purposes of examination or evaluation by a prospective transferee while in the presence of the prospective transferee.

Whoops.

So Mayors, which is it? Are you simply ignorant of what the bill says? Or are you lying?

Readers, why don’t you ask them? Here are their email addresses.

[email protected][email protected], [email protected]

Send them a link to this post and ask them which it was. Were they they lying when they said that S649 applies only to sales? Or were they just too ignorant to know better?

You can even hit them on Twitter if you have an account. Just click to send the following tweet to them.

Q: @CityofDurhamNC @MayorMarkK & @JackieHolcombe: Lying about firearm transfers? Or just ignorant? http://bit.ly/XQDAOj 

We should never allow politicians to lie to us unchallenged.

A pro-gun blogger crashes MAIG’s press conference (*VIDEO*)

UPDATE: Want to “Punch Back Twice as Hard?” Check out this post with email addresses and twitter link to call the mayors out for their deceit.

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Today was awesome. I had to be in Durham today, and just this morning I found out that the Durham Mayor, a (Illegal) Mayors Against Illegal Guns was holding a press conference to push for passage of Harry Reid’s anti-gun bill. There’s something really cool about seeing the faces of three Mayors when they realize that they’ve invited a question at a press conference from a political opponent.

Harry Reid’s bill, S649 includes an almost carbon copy of Senator Shumer’s “Fix Gun Checks Act.” That bill would have criminalized something I did last year. My wife wanted to learn to shoot my Ruger 10/22. I took my rifle to a friend’s farm and gave it to him. My wife went up to his farm and he taught her to shoot it safely out on the “back forty.” Then he put it in her truck and she brought it home. He had the rifle for about 4 months. S649 would put all three of us in Federal prison for 5 years each, minimum. I asked the mayors, “How would making me, my wife, and our friend Mike into federal felons keep criminals from selling guns to each other on the streets of Durham, Morrisville, or Chapel Hill?” Here’s the video that they played at 6pm.

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 I wish you could see how it went down. It was incredibly fun to mess up their set piece press conference. They had children from a local school, a bunch of the sort of women you’d expect for something like this, and some dorky looking fool in a cheap suit and a bad haircut who claimed to be working for MAIG.

The story that went with this video quoted me pretty extensively.

Not everyone at the Durham event, however, agreed with stricter background checks.

Sean Sorrentino, who runs the site NC Gun Blog, said universal checks won’t work because criminals will still figure out ways to get guns.

“I don’t’ think background checks are anything but one more way to trap citizens and send them to jail when all they want to do is exercise their constitutional rights,” he said.

Sorrentino said he believes much of the proposed federal legislation just hurts law-abiding citizens and that there is a lot of detail that people haven’t considered.

For example, he said, it would be illegal for him to loan a gun to a friend to practice shooting – a felony crime that could land him in federal prison for five years.

“If you can’t be trusted with a firearm, you can’t be trusted without a custodian,” Sorrentino said. “If I can’t hand you a firearm and feel safe, then maybe we ought to consider putting you in a place where you can be taken care of.”

I’m particularly proud of dropping David Codrea’s custodian line on them.

If I see other versions of this video, either on WRAL or on NBC17, who also interviewed me, then I’ll post them.

UPDATE: Check out this post with email addresses and twitter link to call out the mayors for their deceit.