I attended the NC State Fair’s pre-fair “Safety Press Conference.” The was considerable discussion of last year’s “incident” with the Vortex ride hurting riders, but I was there to discuss the NC State Fair’s anti-gun policy.
Commissioner Troxler has unilaterally decided that legal Concealed Handgun Permit holders are barred from carrying their legal concealed handguns in the State Fair. He cited the possibility of “accidental discharge,” and “losing your gun” along with making noises about how crowded the State Fair is. He went so far as to defend his policy in court, leading to a refusal of a judge to grant a restraining order against the anti-gun policy.
My concern was never with having to defend myself inside the gates of the Fairgrounds. There are lots of cops about, none more than a few seconds away from you. My concern was always with the long walk back to my car with my wife. I am sure that many other CHP holders have similar concerns and are not too pleased with the Commissioner preventing them from protecting their family.
If, like Commissioner Troxler, you can’t hear my question, what I said was
Mr. Troxler, by actively fighting licensed concealed carry at the State Fair, and by loudly declaring to everyone that no one may carry so much as a can of pepper spray into the fair, haven’t you basically announced to every criminal in North Carolina that if they want easy targets all they need to do is lurk in the parking lots and wait for the people to come to them?
Troxler handed the question off to his Chief of Police, Joel Keith. Chief Keith said that there will be uniformed patrols of the parking lots, so I asked,
And if a person feels unsafe, and wishes to have an escort, will you send an escort with them, anybody who asks?
There you have the Department of Agriculture’s Chief of Police, Joel Keith promising not only uniformed police patrols in the parking lots, but armed escorts for anyone who asks for one.
So there you have it. Chief Keith, backed up by the Wake County Sheriff, Donnie Harrison, will provide you an armed police escort back to your vehicle. After they’ve made it illegal to defend yourself, I think it’s the least they can do.
OMG! I have a gun, so I’m at risk for suicide?!?!?!?
Oh, wait. I missed something. What did she say again?
But looking at the instances in which firearm use ends in death
Umm, why limit it just to “instances in which firearms use ends in death?” If I have to use a gun against another human, I am legally required to use it only when I reasonably fear death, serious bodily injury, or sexual assault. If I haul out the old XD and point it at someone, I am worried, with good cause, that I’m about to die. That means that if I don’t die, I win. In fact, any result other than the good guys ending up dead is considered a win. Why does Olga demand I kill my assailant? Is she not pleased if the assailant runs away, leaving both of us scared but unharmed? What kind of bloodthirsty ghoul is Olga, anyway?
With that in mind I did some poking about and looked up the various estimates of defensive gun uses (DGUs) and I added them to Olga’s little graph.
Even the lowest number of estimated DGUs is more that five times higher that the number of suicides using a firearm.
I’m not even going to get into how Olga misrepresents suicide statistics. She attempts to paint suicide with a gun as a problem for young people.
See where all the red cartridges are concentrated? White men age 40 and over. Just adding up the cartridges shows 25 white men 40 or over vs. 20 in all other categories. If you use the CDC WISQARS info you will quickly determine that one half of all suicides using any method were white men over the age of 35. Suicide is an older white male problem. Statistically, the only people less likely to kill themselves than 14-19 year olds is the 0-13 group. And when you run the numbers, guns aren’t the most popular choice for teen and child suicides.
Maybe this explains why the Left likes to lump suicides in with homicides and scream “GUN DEATHS!!” yet refuses to do anything to reduce actual suicides. They really don’t care if we white male gun owners over the age of 40 kill ourselves. They regard us as the enemy, so our deaths help them twice. Once as statistics to support their gun grabbing agenda, and a second time because we aren’t around to vote against them.
So in addition to spelling things differently, Canadians count things as Sexual Assault that would be not be counted in the US as Forcible Rape. Canada counts Sexual Assaults whether they are unwanted kissing or rape, while the US statistics are limited to just the rapes. You can see why our numbers would be a great deal lower if we’re only counting a subset of the crimes that Canada is counting.
Why do I point this out? Because whenever we are treated to a discussion of how scary and violent the US is, the anti-gunners dump a lot of statistics on us comparing the US to whichever countries they are currently enamored of. There’s no attempt to determine if those statistics are collected in the same way from one country to another. When we compare countries, we try to stick to Murder and Non-Negligent Homicides because dead bodies are fairly easy to count. There’s not a lot of fudging the numbers you can do. Or at least we thought.
We now know that the UK murder numbers are tainted by the fact that in the UK, they don’t count it as a murder until someone gets convicted of the crime. The coroners in the UK don’t even return a finding of Homicide on obvious homicides. They write a narrative of their findings and hand it off to the cops. But if no one gets convicted, it’s possible that even though they have a dead body, it never gets counted in the official statistics.
Just for fun I made up a graph comparing US States (and DC) vs. Canadian Provinces intentional homicide rates. Some places in Canada aren’t very safe.
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I’ve placed a horizontal line at right about the US National Average of 4.7 homicides per 100K population as well as a vertical line separating the US and Canada.
Overall, Canada is a pretty safe place, but then again, overall, so is the US. I suspect that Canada has the same issues as we do, homicides being drug trafficking related rather than random. How does the Canadian drug policy differ from ours?
We hear it all the time. “The US has the highest gun murder rate of any industrialized western country not at war.” Or in the case that Weer’d dug up, the “highest gun murder rate in the ‘developed’ world.” What does that mean, anyway?
Read the sentences above again. Note all the qualifiers. “Industrialized,” “Western,” “Developed.” They make no claims about the world as a whole, just the small subset of countries that they wish to compare the USA to. The one Weer’d dug up used the member states of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (minus Mexico) as a proxy for “developed.” Basically all they are saying is that among white(ish) western European countries, plus a few more, we rank second worst in gun related murders after Mexico. So how do we rate in the whole world?
What’s going on is that the gun haters cherry pick the countries that they want to compare the US to. They don’t look at the whole world, but just a tiny subset. They ignore the very real problem that other countries do not collect homicide data in the same way as we do in the US. Our rule is “dead body that isn’t clearly suicide or accident = homicide.” In the UK, it’s not a murder until someone gets convicted. (Seriously, read this and see how different the UK statistics are from reality)
So next time someone spouts off about how murderous the US is, point them to my handy dandy graphs.
I ended up visiting the anti-gun Moms Demand Action, a wholly owned subsidiary of Michael Bloomberg, Inc’s “Memorial Service” and fundraising event in Durham. I visited for about 30 seconds. Here’s how the News and Observer puts it.
I didn’t make any sort of a disturbance, nor would I have made one, especially inside of a house of worship. I think it’s projection. The Left enjoys disrupting events, so they probably can’t imagine that we wouldn’t return the favor.
I should point out that we were talking about violent crime in general, not Sandy Hook in particular when I pointed out the most violent crimes are committed by people with previous convictions.
Here’s the video.
Moms Demand Action, a wholly owned subsidiary of Michael Bloomberg, Inc, is calling their current fundraiser/blood dancing effort “No More Silence,” but they don’t want to hear from anyone with a differing opinion.
You see, I’m that “gun blogger” in Raleigh who “turned out two-dozen people shaking green signs that read: Guns Save Lives.” Of course, it wasn’t because all my blog readers turned up, it was because I was leading the Grass Roots North Carolina protest. It was GRNC who emailed all their members in Wake and Durham counties asking them to show up at an unknown (at the time) location with about 24 hours notice. We didn’t know where we were going to set up until 10 hours before the event where it was even going to be! Their secrecy was deliberate, because they didn’t want us to show up. Sadly (for them!) they failed. From my blog wrapup of that event…
(Read the whole thing for photos and even some news video coverage.)
And now, months later, NBC is citing us and one of a number of reasons that the Astroturf anti-gun movement is failing.
If you ever wonder, “What can I do to make a difference,” think about me and those 25-30 people standing on a sidewalk in July, sweating, and doing TV interviews. We made a difference. Just by showing up, we made a difference. We showed the world the difference between Astroturf anti-gun and grassroots gun rights. We taught them all a lesson that no matter how much money you have and no matter how nice the private jet you flit about the country on, we have the numbers, intensity, and votes to beat you.
I’ve asked the author for a correction, noting that the protest was a GRNC event More importantly, I’ve emailed all my fellow protestors to let them know that NBC is pointing to them as one of the reasons that Astroturf anti-gunners have failed. They won a great victory for us that day.
I received an email today asking some questions about H937 and its effect on the everyday lives of CHP holders in NC. Rather than answer him, and the next guy, and the next, I thought it would make a good subject for a post.
As a valid NC CCW holder, and someone who carries his handgun wherever possible, when will this bill become law now that it has passed both the house and senate? Also, even after reading it, I still have some questions that you may be able to answer:
does this make it legal for me to carry ANYWHERE alcohol is served, ie resturants and bars?
Since it states gatherings where admission is charged, does that cover movie theatres, regardless of the no handgun signs?
Does this also cover gatherings such as parades or festivals/fairs?
Let’s take them in order.
When will this bill become law – So long as the governor signs H937 it becomes law on Oct 1, 2013.
Does it make it legal to carry ANYWHERE alcohol is served, ie. restaurants and bars – There are no “bars” in North Carolina. There are “Restaurants” and “Eating Establishments.” These places MAY have alcohol licenses. The difference between a Restaurant and an “Eating Establishment” is size. Restaurants have seating for 36 people. The short answer is Yes, you can, if you have a CHP. As always, these locations are private property and may post signs prohibiting firearms.
Gatherings where admission is charged – You may, under this law, carry in theaters (both live action and movie). Again, you have to have a CHP, and you are still prohibited from carrying if the owner posts a No Guns sign.
Does this cover gatherings such as parades or festivals/fairs – It was never illegal to carry in a festival or fair, only Parades, Funeral processions, and demonstrations. It will still be illegal to carry at a demonstration, but if you have a CHP it will no longer be illegal to carry at a parade or funeral procession.
There you go! If you have more questions for me, use the contact form above and I will answer to the best of my ability.
EDITED TO ADD: One of the stated aims of the Giffords/Kelly tour was to visit states where vulnerable Senators voted for or against the Toomey/Manchin gun control bill. Senator Kay Hagan, (D-NC) voted for T/M and is one of the most vulnerable Senators in the 2014 election. I saw no evidence at all that Hagan made any attempt to meet with Giffords or Kelly during this visit. This matches what happened in North Dakota where Democrats distanced themselves from her politically as well as physically.
North Carolina is shedding its reputation as The Massachusetts of Dixie when it comes to gun laws. We are poised to end a bunch of stupid prohibitions with House Bill 937. And if there’s one thing that North Carolinians can’t stand it’s outsiders coming here to tell us how to run our lives. Strange how a kid from California can move here and go all native, huh? All you Yankee Carpetbaggers, GO HOME!
Today was the last day of Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly’s whirlwind tour of the USA. Seven states in seven days.
Anyone know what this is?
That is a photo of the private jet Gabby and Mark flew around in. It’s a $25,000,000 Candair Challenger CL-600. It’s owned by Montfort Aviation, which is owned by the Montfort brothers. Charlie Montfort owns the Colorado Rockies baseball team. It must be nice to have such generous friends to fly you all across the USA to push for further infringements on our rights.
Dubbed the “Rights and Responsibilities Tour” (and hilariously hash tagged #RandRTour, yeah, that plane looks like Rest and Relaxation to me!) Giffords and Kelly seemed to be pushing the Spiderman theory of gun ownership. “With great power comes great responsibility.” The reality is that their organization, “Americans for Responsible Solutions” has four goals.
So however they spin themselves, they are just another garden variety gun grabber group. We met them on those terms.
It took a lot of doing to find out where the R&R Tour was going to show up. So much so that I actually went to the airport to meet the plane in hopes of getting info on their planned stops for today. The cops kicked me out.
Luckily, the media told us what was happening. We heard several variations, but the basics were that they would shoot sporting clays, have a round table discussion with gun owners, and meet with their supporters. The general consensus was that their round table discussion with gun owners would happen at “The Pit Authentic Barbecue” in downtown Raleigh at around 11AM. Paul Valone of Grass Roots North Carolina couldn’t make it, so he put me in charge and asked me to make it happen. With less than 10 hours notice, we wrangled a crowd of about 25-30 people. Here we are at the beginning when the media showed up
Photo Credit: Eric S, Raleigh
Immediately the media descended. I gave 4 on camera interviews and one print interview. Our main message was, not surprisingly, “Why is Gabby Giffords trying so hard to avoid the group she claims to represent?” That message set the tone for a lot of the coverage.
Here’s the video. I don’t speak on camera, but I spent quite a bit of time explaining to the reporter how they billed this as a “Round table with gun owners,” but we gun owners were excluded. I guess he listened. Listen for the bomb he drops on them for excluding us. You can see me in the crowd scene rocking the purple shirt.
UPDATE: The WRAL video has been pulled from the WRAL website. We’re trying to get another copy.
Note also how many people they have in the “round table.” Fourteen. We had double that on the street outside.
Our mission was to deny them the chance to claim to be the middle ground. They are trying to play the “We’re moderate” card. Note how every reporter titled their story except N&O. “Gun Control.” There’s no euphemisms like “Gun Safety.” No “Common Sense Gun Laws.” It’s straight up “Gun Control.” That is pure win for our side.
I am really pleased with how the protest went. GRNC looked pretty good and Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly were variously tarred as lying about the round table and as plain old gun controllers.
If they were hoping to sweep in and change anything, they’ve failed. They’ve only managed to get my face on 3 of the 4 major news channels and GRNC’s repudiation of them in every single story printed. Having failed in their mission, they got in their jet and flew to Asheville so Gabby can continue her rehab.
I hope that Gabby gets better. There’s no reason a would be assassin should destroy her life. There’s also no reason she and her husband should try to use that assasination attempt to take away our rights.